of Hibernians doing slow intense prowls over the television cables, What is their Irishness? I myself happen to be Black Irish, or so I'm told by my dad and grandmother because they are too. fatalist, yet perversely optimistic faces that seem to say: "A broken Now after reading what Black-Irish means I'm afraid to wear the thing. This characteristic is similar to the Basque males of Spain and is believed to be responsible for the dark features. You can't throw a rock in the South without hitting someone with Irish ancestry, and if you look in the phone book, you'll find enough Irish surnames to choke a mule. Given that Celtic lanuages have as much in common with Semitic languages as with IndoEuropean languages, it is no great stretch to imagine an ancestral group with general coloring in line with Jews and Arabs. Mournful mouths and smiling eyes. An Alpine from the Black Forest, Baden. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Black irish, one of the biggest crap expressions ever invented, basically made up by irish Americans who expect all Irish people to have red hair and freckles. For the record, I am Irish born, I am 6'1, dark curly haired, pale in winter, red in summer, speak Irish language, play bag pipes, gaelic football, hurley and have been involved in the fight for freedom against the british. It might not have been right, but we earned it, and by god, no bloody Englishman is going to take it away again. Oddly, my high school history teacher (US) informed my classmates and me that "black Irish" refers to the color of the dark soil where they lived. When an Irish person tells their child they have dark hair because they're "black irish", it means they have dark hair because they're not of British heritage. Historical artifacts such as the La Tene, aboriginal stone age inhibition, and the Newgrange monuments gives this notion credence. Like Italian faces, the Irish I have a very distinctive look with almost black hair and green eyes while the rest of my family has much lighter features. jowls, layer on layer, chin on chin, eye bags on eye bags, sometimes (The face of a tough, smart priest, the youngest As for "black irish" meaning some mixture of different ethnicities, that's the best and most non-offensive way to look at the term. We truly are a stubborn bunch, and we probably won't admit that of course, because we're one of the common traits of Irish people is that we are pretty stubborn. I'm sure this term means different things to people, but in America, the Black Irish are simply the 15 percent with black hair, blue or green eyes, and pale skin. If you look, lots of people have different ideas of what "black irish" means, and to be honest, there is no right or wrong answer because I'm sure the term has changed depending on where in the world it is being used and who is using it. priest ever to be closest to the cardinal, who, in turn, is afraid of The Beautiful Siouxsie Sioux. You are citing sources from much later. So many Irish faces: "The common classes are strongly marked with All the women in my family fall under this description. The term "Black Irish" has also been applied to the descendants of Irish emigrants who settled in the West Indies. Do I have characteristics that favor the indian side or irish and with my descriptions, are we black irish? My mother is black irish - dark hair, pale skin, and dark eyes that can change to a green/grey color with mood also. It is unlikely that the exact origin of the term will ever be known and it is also likely that it has had a number of different iterations, depending on the historical context. It was later against the law to breed Irish and African slaves because it cut into the profit of a major slave shipping company. Whether the Armada story played into it or just northern immigration from Spain to western Ireland, the Black Irish are indeed connected to Spanish ancestry! That said, imagine a group that broke off millennia ago from a larger group of Semitic languages to encounter and colonize the lands to the north and west. Copy. I've never found it to be true.". I myself am of Irish descent with darker features and was interested in the term black Irish. I know this from when I was in school and the British-Irish kids would tease the minority of non-British Irish kids about being "black". Most have blonde to brown hair tones, not black. into as many as nine kingdoms, hence many kings, hence many genealogies HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. I would love to see all your photos, as i could read your face (Antonio}. Here, of course, is the stereotypical domineering Irish mother, and And though the majority have the blue genes as a dominate gene, we all still carry the brown eyed gene. Haha. From the perspective of someone living in Ireland, I would say the 'black' denotes wicked as in a Catholic V Protestant thing. I have black hair bright blue eyes and tan skin all natural. Irish men of different facial types, in no particular order, taken mainly from the works of Earnest Albert Hooton, C. Wesley Dupertius and Carleton Stevens Coon. The term "Black Irish" should be changed to "Moorish Irish". 3 (3 views). Park Hotel near Union Station, says: "You know what they call the I of the Irish. weeks, his wife asks the judge to free him. History has become hijacked by political bandits with a motive. My mother's father was of Black Welsh and Black Irish stock. legend sometimes hides truth. The darker haired and darker eyed Irish are the same people as the fairer ones. anon9141 sounds like a mixture similar to the Melungeons. Life and Luxury (author) from South Beach, FL on January 11, 2020: It is good that you know your family history, Joffre! Side-of-beef faces, faces with fabulously understated blond hair of a They all skin as pale as Chinese takeout cartons, and a look of splendid uncaring getting any closer. You wouldn't believe she was born in Ireland at all. you are all victims of the anglo-american public school scheme that reconstructed history and told you who you are. In 1588, the Spanish King Felipe II attempted to attack the Protestant heretics of England in a bid to restore Catholicism and also as a gesture of solidarity with the oppressed Irish Catholics. The Gypsies are a people with stark features among their European counterparts. She used to tell me that part of her family was "black Irish". I'm more English culturally, though several generations from which I was directly descended were Irish. Proud, double-chinned fathers Leprechaun lawn Although the skull is similar to a modern human head, it has a larger cranium, is more robust and has larger molars. Sign up to IrishCentral's newsletter to stay up-to-date with everything Irish! Typically, they were farmers, miners, fishermen -- you get the drift. So, there seems to be a Southern, Moorish, vector which populated modern Ireland in the last half millennia. The Moors overtook Ireland. Share your favorite stories with other history buffs in the IrishCentral History Facebook group. . The ultimate travesty was once known as the stage Irishman. Also, I was told that we were travelers and all I know is I have black hair and green eyes and I love moving around. After three Just to put my two cents in on black Irish, there are too many theories. In fact, your average Southerner claims Irish ancestry with pride. Nothing Iberian about it. My maternal grandmother told me as a small child, that her family was authorized to wear both Kennedy and Stuart Tartans. I am African American of Irish and other European decent. In 1845-49,the great potato blightdevastated Irish crop and put the Irish people on the brink of Starvation. My family is as Irish as can be. My family has people of all hair and eye colors. I was told i was black irish so i don't know but these are my features, but they made for one hell of a model. Americans.". Scientists have concluded that the Celts did not invade Ireland en masse, nor did they replace an earlier group. In Ireland, 1847 was called Black '47 because thousands of people died from famine and disease, and people who emigrated from Ireland to escape these conditions might have been referred to as Black Irish. My late younger sister had brown hair. She has seven children. He says (and i'm not trying to offend anyone, this is a VERY serious question) that the Black Irish were also known for insanity. Scots are the reverse. My mother has black hair black brown eyes. "It's a nose everyone desires. I also have sioux ancestry and my grandfather was french and irish, most of my non italian side has dark hair but being part italian can add too the black irish features because I have a jim morrison type mouth and eye area and he looked black irish, so maybe just being a bunch of different features can give a black irish look, I get pretty pale and pink in the winter but in summer I look like I am half spanish due to a dark tan, but I do also have some very white ancestors on the irish side also but most did have dark hair, its weird because at times I look very Italian or more Irish sometimes with my wide face and cheek bones ( i know a wide face is a Irish feature) and big mouth I even look native american at times but I guess every one comes out with their own special look to them. I was always under the impression that "Black Irish" meant you were fair with light eyes and very dark hair. for the sort of violence he's trying to quell -- the romance of destiny, Both parents had dark hair, fair skin and blue eyes. They were the Neanderthals, who had arrived from Africa tens of thousands of years earlier, and the more recent modern humans, also known as Cro-Magnons. The mutation that caused red hair is known as the MC1r variant, and first occurred between 40,000 and 60,000 years ago. I have Irish eye shape as well, more obvious when I was a young child. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. For the most part, the Irish ethnicity is . When I was a younger man, some asked if I was black Irish. In many cases, it refers to people of Irish ancestry who have features that are darker than stereotypical Irish features blue or green eyes, reddish hair and pale skin. Blonde hair, on the other hand, took much longer to develop, starting gradually with hair colors only slightly lighter than in preceding generations. The Irish, too, have been compared to apes, suggesting that this comparison is a generalizable tactic of oppression, not one inspired by the color of the skin of Africans. Another possible origin of this term is that it was created by people who wanted to hide their true ancestry. The Gaelic word for foreigner is "gall" and for black (or dark) is "dubh.". Donahue, Cardinal Spellman, Jimmy Cagney, Joe McCarthy, Jimmy Breslin, This went on for decades creating many Irish African slaves. Many families, however, integrated into Gaelic society and changed their Norman name to Gaelic and then Anglo equivalents: the Powers, the Fitzpatricks, Fitzgeralds, Devereux, Redmonds. suffers it raceless and placeless, universal citizens, members of the It's a working class slur, just like redneck, redskin, and all the rest. or grimy barefoot women surrounded by grimier children who have what We are the only three in the whole family who have darker skin. I have dark brown hair, hazel eyes, pale skin and freckles. Beyond that, there is no reason to believe they would be significantly darker than your average Scotsman or Irishman. If your family history says your ancestors were from Ireland, well then, you have Irish ancestry. The term also might have originated in the West Indies, where some Catholics are believed to have used it to describe Protestant immigrants from Ireland. He had no difficulty believing Christianity's doctrines of evil and @Anon99496: I wouldn't be so quick to discount the article's definition. no offense to irish americans but i am so sick of being considered the same. Despite the widely held belief that the Irish are descended from Celts who invaded Ireland about 2,500 years ago, a 2004 genetic research study at Trinity College, Dublin (TCD) appears to argue against it. The dark irish is a result of either mixing with native americans, or spanish people. The first brits and celts were the basques as they settled the british isles and ireland. It was also used in Ireland by Catholics in Ulster Province as a derogatory term to describe the Protestant Planters. York. It is an island and has been invaded several times throughout its history, and all speak of the land being occupied. The Protestants were the Wasps ( White Anglo Saxon Protestants). I think black-irish should only be used for the unusual traits of very light skin and Blue/green eyes with a very fair completion. so Colin Farrell, Pierce Brosnan and Scotsman of Irish-ancestry Sean Connery and Irish-american George Clooney are all part of the Black Irish? The term "Black Irish" has been in circulation among Irish emigrants and their descendants for centuries. Belgium. My family is full Irish on both sides with a small amount of French on my mother's side. You are all wrong. Everyone says I think I know what it means, but don't you? "Why on Earth do you want him back again? Some historiansbelievethat these Spaniards gave rise to the BlackIrish offspring. All this come from the ignorance of bitter, jealous people who cannot extinguish the fire of their own hatred towards their fellow man. black Irish - potato famine of the mid-nineteenth century - black rot. I have always heard "Black Irish" meant dark hair, light skin and light eyes. Here's the rub. They are often medium to tall in height, and finely boned, almost gracile. Erin go bragh. I guess the more 'stereotypical' Irish. the national peculiarity of features, and by this they are readily We are all blonde haired and brown, a few reds, with all types of eye color. Maybe it isn't a myth. The singer Mariah Carey, announcing her new liquor brand last month, said it was called Black Irish in a nod to her father, who was Black, and her mother's Irish heritage. standing next to daughters in new nuns' habits. It also concluded that the closest genetic race to Irish is Basque from guess where, the Iberian peninsula. Further Reading They are mostly stout and hardy, dark haired, dark skinned and dark-eyed. The trend is still largely prevalent due to slavery breeding practices and the taboo surrounding interracial relationships up until the last few decades. -- George Bernard Shaw. @Anon109506: The Irish experience you spoke of was more common in the northeastern U.S. The history of U.S. discrimination against the Irish, however, offers an interesting comparative data point. Spanish, African, Iberian, Italian (Roman) or lower eastern Europe, which is also a mixed Euro-middle eastern, roots can be traced to most cultures. Ireland was under the dominion of the Moors before other inhabitants moved the the island. Well I'm from Montana and married to a man who prefers to be known as a black Irishman. The Irish drink tea on a daily basis, it's what gets us out of bed in the morning. Black Irish, like the "dark folk" in Scotland, were the original, ancient peoples of both these countries: dark skinned, black hair and (originally) very tall people. thoughtlessly generous, quick to resent and forgive offenses, to form Also, everyone of every color faces some degree of racism in their lifetime (unless they're living underground from birth, but that's unlikely). If someone has 24 % english DNA shown up, tha just means 'similarity ' or markers that are generally found in that population. if you look at shows about the subject eg, black donnellys, its backs this up, not sure why though. Tibetans or captured Confederates or American Indians. Historians have concluded that these group of invaders often Intermarried with the local Irish population and formed new groups. 1. Scandinavian culture plays a roll in recent UK culture and it's evident in places like Yorkshire (ENG), Wales, and Scotland (where else did smoked salmon come from?). You should see my Ryan cousins and ancestors -- they're almost all dark-haired and brown or hazel-eyed and tan dark brown. The black population was largely genetically separate from populations that became white (Europeans). massive, and whiskey-loving. What are the Origins of St. Patrick's Day. In terms of appearance, there is not much difference between people from South and North Wales. 1847 was known as "black 47." Facial features are defined by associated groups of points on the face, rather like the hills and valleys on a 3-dimensional map. first major Irish Catholic novelist, that "like the Irish, Fitzgerald is September 30, 2022by Editorial Team There is no one answer to this question as everyone has their own unique facial features. The term black Irish is a slur on any person of Irish descent who was poor and worked with their hands. And aren't my Indo-European ancestors from the place currently known as the Middle East? I think it's attractive. All this talk of black Irish having something to do the hair and eye color is nonsense. ", Anne Marie Schmidt, a Washington restaurant manager from Dublin, I do have dark, almost black, thick hair, blue eyes and tan skin. Over time, this group would retain much of its original language, and incorporate the language of the "new" peoples it encountered. The real, original Irish are all dark haired and dark featured. You would need an Armada shipwrecked every year for a century. As odd as it may seem, my g-g-grandfather was dead set against slavery and fought for the Union in the Civil War. Does this make them any less Irish? These were the most congenial truths of his religion. I had a 21-marker-pair autosomal test through DNA tribes. "Black Irish" is a bit of Irish humour, you see. "Irish Americans are no more Irish than black Americans are Africans. ", In the 18th century, Samuel Johnson said: "The Irish are a fair This is absolutely hilarious to me. Where the Black Irish really came from and no, it wasnt the Spanish Armada, Mariah Careys Black Irish liquor cannot be sold in Ireland due to legal battle, International Irish Coffee Day: The history and recipe of Irish coffee. Fair skin and dark hair with Irish features. My mother is a red haired very pale skin irish, my father is the jet black hair dark eyed irish with medium skin tone..I ended up with black hair and hazel eyes that change with my mood between dark brown to gray to greenI wish more was know about how the 'black irish" came to be. It could also be a German ancestry thing. There are some redheads in Ireland though but not as many as there are people with dark eyes and hair. the next." Eileen, Shaun and the popular Kelly, as in Kelly Nguyen. The term "Black Dutch" also is believed to have been used by American Indians for this purpose. The Iberian-Irish connection is 100 percent obvious also. Goddess Colleen: big-boned, redheaded, like Athena with freckles, Our heritage keeps us grounded. Ireland is an island that has been invaded throughout history, and there are thousands of people from several countries who moved there, and for whatever reason marry and have children. Rivalry and animosity that goes back centuries associated with religion, politics, monarchies, papacies, wars, land, language, prestige, alliances with continental European powers etc. "Love is the answer, and you know that for sure!". you are the green beer drinking "so called" (Irish) wannabees who will never be entitled to the knowledge of the natural existence of Tuatha De Danaan. I have 3 Grandparents that where straight off the boat Irish, 1 grandparent that is Miwok Indian. Having black Irish features can definitely be one of the most gorgeous looks on the planet! The name Doyle is in Irish "O'Dubhghaill" which literally means "dark foreigner" which reveals their heritage as an invading force with dark intentions. . my dad's brother has dark skin and hazel eyes and dark hair. How's that? Additionally, some myths point out theIrish travellersseparated from the settled community 2000 years ago. There were Black Kings of Ireland. Are these typical facial features of Irish people long oval shaped faces Medium too High cheekbones Small eyes that are thin and narrow Round Prominent chin Slightly Upturned nose Dark hair and Dark eyes are very common among Irish . But, at least for now . I'm just speaking from Boston POV! "They seem to have come up along the coast through Western Europe and arrived in Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Any truth to this? But though dark Irish are a minority of the makeup in Ireland, it's a majority throughout the world. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. My great grand mother was Dutch, her family was called black Dutch, because they worked for a living. Rock musician Bob Geldof was quoted in the Irish Echo as saying: The Irish are our much more gregarious and extroverted Celtic pals from across the sea. The name Gallagher is "O Gallchobhair" which translates as "foreign help." Mixed Gypsy/Romani or the Irish Travelers The Gypsies are a people with stark features among their European counterparts. Just wanted to say that Amy Pollick #71 is so right! In my humble opinion, no matter where we're born and raised, we are still who we are. The phrase Black Irish to me is talking about Irish people who clearly have Spanish ancestry, possibly from the Spanish Armada story. Both my mothers family and my fathers family came to the U.S. after "the troubles. My grandmother said it wasn't safe to be Catholic in Ireland anymore, after the kidnapping, bombs and shootings going on in Ireland at the time. one side of my mothers family had this stark look , and i have some of it. Anyway, I assume my grandfather, who looked Egyptian/Indian/Dark Latino to be of Gypsy stock. Since her mother was clearly "colored", her birth certificate actually says "Tan" on the line for race - no kidding - they knew they shouldn't call her white, but they didn't see a colored baby before them. That said, an ancestral relationship of dark hair/coloring/eyes in the greater ethnic group of the Celts would be compatible with a high incidence of red/yellow haired/colored individuals. Have been all my life. Irish people who have dark hair, brown eyes and dark complexions are often referred to as Black Irish. on the census, but we don't have our schools filling up with Helmuts and And I should know because our family is Black Irish. Bombings and shootings, mortarings and kneecappings while lol. 36,629 2,266 2,589. Scottish men are taller than the Irish, often larger then the rest of the UK, (England has more all-sorts, big and small, and you see funny funny lookin folk down . ", A Britisher at Adams's press conference at the Capital Hilton Myths point out that they were exiled from India into Europe after an Afghani King invaded northern India in the 15th Century. The last names were traditional Irish names(fairly common). what's going to happen next, because it's all happened to them before. I met a lady once who had lived in Wales and at first she said, "you look Latino," then she had another look and said i look just like the "Kale" -- Welsh gypsies. The Irish potato famine was also a time of many deaths due to a disease known as Black Fever. recognized in other countries." It is possible that the term "Black Irish" may have referred to some of these immigrant groups as a way of distinguishing them from the "Gaels," the people of ultimately Celtic origin. I'm talking about true Irish people, born in Ireland to Irish parents who are 100 percent Irish. Ireland is like America: a melting pot of several nationalities mixing with the current population to create new genetics, new language and new culture. You never say "He had a face like the map of The Whiteboys were a Catholic group that promoted the idea of attempting to boycott all trade and commerce with the Protestant regime opposed on Ireland in the 16th century. The R1b in these areas are a different subclade to the Basque proving they are not closely related. The basic facts: The Ancient Irish were children of King David of Israel. Quiet Man" on TV on St. Patrick's Day the way "It's a Wonderful Life" is Then they went to Iberia. subliminal dysplasia of defiance when they're arrested and we see them Are these typical facial features of Irish people long oval shaped faces Medium too High cheekbones Small eyes that are thin and narrow Round Prominent chin Slightly Upturned nose Dark hair and Dark eyes are very common among Irish people like Dark Brown and Hazel even Black hair and Brown eyes is also common Milky . My family is also Black Irish, and we're from Counties Limerick and Tipperary in Ireland, and never moved to Scotland, that I know of. Their children- grandfather and great aunts were later described as mulatto on subsequent census until 1880 when again they were all described as white. This mutation, pheomelanin, is responsible for the yellow-red pigmentation, while eumelanin is the default coloring for most humans - the brown-black end of the pigmentation scale. O'Hara's face was of the Map of Ireland variety. Wouldn't a lot of mothers choose Irish faces for their children too? Oh, forgot to add, I married into an Irish clan and have no Irish ancestry that I am aware of myself. It is definitely a product of the western hemisphere and therefore not a race of Ireland. Also, can the world start using the term Irish for the race of people living in Ireland and please please irish american for the lovely people with Irish ancestors who are a different race. One sister has olive skin and green eyes. anthologies, the e-newsletter Sapling, and The Adirondack Review. I tend to think that there is an ancient dark Pictish strain in this. People from Anglesey are on average taller and have darker skin than those from the rest of Wales though. originally father told me some years ago that his father told him that we were descended from a Spaniard who came off a ship in Bantry bay. Caroline Keating, an expert in non-verbal communication at Colgate University in New York, told BBC Future, "The big eyes, the long lashes, the arched brows, the plump lips, the small chins, the . Then again, he's in a tough business. Most of the men in my family worked in mines or pits, while the women were maids or some type of healer. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. he is the only one who took after his grandfather. My wife is stocky, square shouldered, big of hand, big feet, fair skinned, but dark hair and eyes, very strong physically, and very, very strong emotionally. culturally different! It would eventually show itself amongst other animals of the period, continuing until today. My brother and sister were fair skinned with blonde hair and blue eyes. St. Patrick's Festival: Top 5 events in Dublin that you don't want to miss, Joe Biden honors "grit and determination" proclaiming Irish American Heritage Month, Ireland and Northern Ireland pols react after Northern Ireland Protocol "breakthrough", Ireland Womens National Team heading to the US this spring for two friendlies, In praise of Ireland's exciting and diverse future. Then you couldn't have crawled those There are a number of different claims as to the origin of the term Black Irish, none of which are possible to entirely prove or disprove. These people were dark haired and had a darker complexion as opposed to the Irish who had adopted a sedentary lifestyle. It is also possible that within the various Irish cultures that became established in America that there was a pecking order, a class system that saw some of their countrymen labeled as "black.". I am of the darker phenotype. 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