The on/off temperature can be adjusted by the user. One end of the wire should be a male disconnect connector, and the other end should be a spade connector. Your wiring looks right. Please see the compatible model list below (Note 1 on the bottom). Ive set the Sn value to pt for the PT100. Hi Chris, i noticed you used the K type thermocouple with the M4. I have a 2013 Gaggia Classic. Thanks for the info, D. Your experience further goes to show that there is no standardized wire color coding in the GCP, even though black is usually hot and white is neutral. The same can be done with the REX C100 but you need one with all 8 screw terminals (the second SSR for steam uses the alarm function which needs terminals #6 and #7) and these two are missing on some REXs. One thing I would really recommend when anyone installs a PID system into the Gaggia Classic is to install a rubber grommet where the cables exit the machine. See all. Thanks for the PID info. Likewise, you can use 22 awg for the connection between the PID and the SSR. Its stimulated a lot of interesting discussion! If you have questions regarding ourcoffee kits, please check ourHelp Centerfirst. Thanks. Useful Video. I double checked all the wiring (inside and outside of the chassis) and eventually came to the conclusion that I had a faulty PID. You could simulate pre infusion by briefly running the pump. Then the PID will only switch on when the boiler temperature drops below the target temperature. I should pointed out that the temperature ranges I was referring to were with the -8C offset on the PID. Do you think this makes a difference? Maybe this could serve instead of trying to find an M4 thermocouple. It would be great to see how the machine is behaving without the PID, to get a baseline. Hello Chris, Or is the only power available from the mains? Gaggia Classic Seamless PID Upgrade. Once warmed up, the recovery time is quick and the swing is fairly minimal. My only concern is the diagramm I downloaded from whole latte love shows different connections then what I have seen in my unit Be careful, the edges of the hole in the chassis are very sharp. Range: -1999 to 9999 (depends on the input signal) Its actually reading too high.. 98 deg against 92deg measured by both my oven thermometers. This was such a great guide. Did I miss any other kits? 103 or 105 is good. Left or right side if facing the front of the machine? But just like the kit I ordered, the threads on the thermocouple M8 according to the specifications are too big for the Gaggia. Great guide. If you have a 12v pid could you do everything as you have done except the mains wiring and instead wire the pid directly to an old phone wall charger for power? Thanks for the catch, I will correct the article. I used the same controller ( XMT 7100 ) which Mr Shades is selling. Some people have done this by replacing the water filler funnel and 3D printing a replacement cover. When I turn off, it goes back to zero. I went with an insulated PT100. (PID Temperature Controller Meter Indicator, Jaybva Digital Universal Thermostat C and Fahrenhe F Display SSR and Alarm Output 40A Solid State Relay and Thermocouple Probe Heat Sink Included)? Run this wire along the rest of the existing cables and out the back of the Classic, through one of the vent slots. QB-T7100 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller AC/DC 85-250V New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $135.30 SHIPPING: We load new stock of PIDs on a Sunday, and they sell out very quickly (often within a few hours). (I believe it is currently on 5) Or shall I just keep it as it is, showing DC 100V when I turn the switch on? i ordered K type and PT100 both for M4. Sure enough, it powered up. brew thermostate. Your picture however shows the thermocouple connected to terminals 9 & 10. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. So you could measure water temp at the group head at 180 deg F with the PID set to 204 deg F. There is some interesting information here: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. In a properly wired North American outlet, the neutral wire is white, and the hot/load wire is black (ground is green). Hi peeps, finally got all the bits n pieces to do the Pid, brew & steam mod on the gaggia, does anybody have any general instructions for putting this all together? $285.00. Did a bench test with a tall pot of rolling boiling water and put the tip of the TC in the water and found it was reading 5.5 degrees low. Thats what Auber and Shades use, although they make their own. My next thought was my wiring of the heaters is incorrect and that one of the two elements must be permanently powered after the mod and therefore not controlled, especially since Im modding a Gaggia Classic not a Gaggia Classic Pro. It would also be a bit of a weird machine, but this approach wouldnt require any mods or re-setting of temperatures to use the machine to brew. Please let us know if theres a way to show our gratitude if theres a charity or cause we can donate to for you putting this guide together. Hello, Im running into problems and I dont know if my REX-C100s starting values are the problem or if its my deviation with the wiring: Regardless of the temperature that i set on my PID, toggling the Gaggia on causes it to climb to 150-160C and then slowly decline to 118-125C, at which time it will heat up again. You said here that the to get an M3 thread for the boiler. Just leave the SSR disconnected, or dont install it at all. CONCLUSION! I am glad you got your setup working Murat. Also, the diagram of the controller lists SSR to connects to terminals 9 & 10. This approach would make your machine a bit weird to someone who wasnt aware of what you did, as the brew function would be completely unusable without adjusting the temperature. Did you have any problems or stumbled upon anything unexpected? Consult the instructions that came with your PID to make sure. What you describe is pretty normal, except that I am a bit surprised that your steam drops temperature down to 102. The kit installation is fully reversible. Circuit diagram of Gaggia Classic with the KIT-GG connection. Silver case Black case TopBox with logo TopBox with gauge hole. Hi Nitzan. Ill verify the cable, its one of the cables that came with the machine, so it could likely be the strands have slowly burned with time and just needs cutting and re-crimping, as you mention. So 3 possible solutions: getting the main not from the switch but from the output of the timer board (probably nicest, but figuring out the right wire will take time) OR do the rocker switch mod (https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/post-2018/gaggia-classic-2019ri9480power-switch-mod) OR what I did: just tap not the bottom left but the top left connector of the switch (which in return is always ON, but dont worry, heating elements get voltage only when you really switch the machine ON). This is the only concern left for me. I did not use a grommet. I dont bother with offset, once I have a temperature dialed in, it doesnt matter whether its measured at the boiler or offset for the group head. The PID will show the temperature, and be somewhat confused by its inability to reach its setpoint, however the PID is bypassed in the same way when the GCP is in steam mode. Instruction Manual: The instruction manual & installation documents areonly available for download for customers who already purchased the kit. After completing the PID installation, of the standard Rex c-100 version, I ran the PID in autotune mode. PID Control Kit for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine, White LED $164.99. I did that exercise before installing the PID, behavior should be identical as that time. The enclosures purpose is first to protect you from the mains current, and second, to make it easier to attach the PID to the Gaggia. Because the PID runs on mains voltages, an enclosure is required. Thank you for making it. Hi Chris or anyone who may know the answer! I know what I will be trying tomorrow , Hi, Posted by 4 years ago. Hi Murat, . Is there an easy way to set a brewing and steam temp? Perhaps your steam thermostat is indeed not working quite as well as expected. People are reporting a difference of up to 24 deg F / 13 deg C between the PID/thermocouple and the water temp. Ive noticed that the PIDs output1 LED isnt illuminated after it climbs above my set temperature (103) but the boiler is getting heated up regardless. But Ive downloaded the wiring diagram for my machine. Also noticed if you use the steam for the milk it takes a lot of time to go back down (10min) to the set temp(i do run water through the boiler to bring the temp down, but it floats at a higher temp for a bit), does the steam affect the PID calculation or dont I need to worry about it? Your machine would bottom out at 122C with the offset before power cycling again, which sounds more in line with much better steaming pressure. The Classics over-pressure valve (OPV) is set to 14 bars, which is a pressure better suited to the use of pressurized portafilters. PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home PID Temperature Control Retrofit KIT for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine [KIT-GG] - $149.50 : Auber Instruments, Inc., Temperature control solutions for home and industry Home :: Coffee Machine Kits :: PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home Coffee Machine Kits Product 4/21 Their kit is convenient, and is the way to go if someone doesnt feel ready to take on a 100% DIY project. This wont be enough for the boiler heating element. Auber Forum PID Kits for Coffee Machines PID Kits for Gaggia; Poll Moved Topic. Close the PID enclosure, and attach it to the side of the Classic. 2: The add-on item option "extra wire defeating auto-off timer" is for the Gaggia Classic Pro European model (RI9480, 240V), which has the auto-turn-off timer feature. If youre not comfortable installing this yourself, and taking on any followup maintenance, I think you would be much better off purchasing a machine that comes with a PID from the factory. Maybe then try QB-T7100 afterwards and if it works I will buy the external case which is sold seperately (QB looks nicer with small size and external case). Do not undertake this procedure if you are not comfortable or uncertain. Im assuming it should be fine as well to use 18 awg wire to wire the mains connections to the PID, and between the heating element and the SSR? Once these bolts are removed, the boiler can be moved around without having to disconnect any hoses or wires. The preinfusion thing is a bit ridiculous, it just turns your pump on, off and on again. The PID works after hooking everything up. Loosen the four bolts that hold down the boiler assembly. Hi, thanks for the articely, it was great help to do the initial steps. Hi Jeff. I would like to use it for steaming ONLY. Fortunately, no damage done, and you can easily revert your changes. I have a question on the pid, it is normal for the brew light to blink (off and) while it stabilizes to the target temperature. As for you steam mode question, if you followed this guide for installing your PID, the PID will have no effect on the the steam temperatures or functions. Hi Rusty. did the REX-100 require most of the default setting to be changed or is it similar to changing like shades PID or Auber PID. It doesnt matter which mains terminal is connected to hot and which one is connected to neutral. Perhaps Ill use a spare Arduino or FPGA to PWM the boiler while brewing as someone else was saying. Allow easy adjustment on the coffee water temperature. It will void your warranty, the possibility for making errors or breaking things during installation is too high, and the amount of time it takes would make it cost prohibitive. You can take a look at this discussion about offset in the Gaggia Classic: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. Awesome PID installation guide! 3. But this kit doesn't fit the European model RI9403, which has a stainless steel boiler with a different thermostat mounting. The silver box is coated with clear anodized aluminum with a brush-finished stainless steel front panel. Depending on the enclosure, you may need to insert the PID into the housing first. Please contact us if any questions. I found this M8 female to M4 male reducer: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284317077676. In the text it says M4, but on the picture, it highlights to use the M3. Hi Evan. I have noticed after PID installation that upper cup holder tray is getting quite hot during 8-10 min warm-up, which was not the case when I was using the original GCP setup. When I started steaming at that point thermostat never shut down the boiler because temperature did not reach to limit of thermostat. Im thinking Id like to start with just a temperature indicator, to assist with the surfing. Useful link. The 103 is not a true 103, that is what is getting measured in the boiler wall, and there is also a temperature drop off between the boiler and the portafilter, so your final espresso temperature will be lower. Just use a multimeter to find the switched mains, and you should be able to follow the thermostat wires. Thermocouple: J,S,K,E,Wre3 ~ Wre25 My problem is that since installing the mod, my machine gets way too hot and boils. I am beginning to suspect that Gaggia created as many combinations of wiring configurations and colors as they made machines. Perfect, came back here to ask this question! I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. Display: Dual display for Fahrenheit(F) and Celsius(C) Hi Eddie. Hi Nish. I installed an Auber PID on my Gaggia Classic earlier this year. I had no problem with my mod other than the stickers on the back of the PID were reversed, so the terminal markings were not correct. Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Hi Ray. I have few questions for you about this setup. The ability to make good espresso is one of the most coveted skills in the coffee world. it appears i can configure the BERM REXC-100 like this as i entered the settings after i enabled alarm 1. auber uses 1 SSR & is simple. If you purchased the kit from our website, you can download the manual zip file from our website by one of the following methods: Note: I would be glad if you have any recommendations. (Optional) Add-on Item. I just installed the pid on my Gaggia classic Pro following your instruction guide. Even with a perfect offset, you would also need to also take into account the temperature offset between the boiler and the portafilter. Where did you place the SSR? GRAN GAGGIA PRIMING. But that also seems fiddly. Measured everything with multimeter, then realized that C100 doesnt get main while machine is on based on the lights. Log in or sign up to leave a comment. For the melted connector plastic, thats a sign of either a wire or a connector that is carrying too much current for its rating, or most likely, a connection between the wire and connector that is not as solid as it should be. It shows that neutral cables coming from thermostats are connecting each other under the steam switch but mine are connected under the main switch. Have you written an article regarding installing a Gaggiuino mod? I have re-read the specifications for this controller. Ive been reading up many different values for the P, I and D, and im not sure where to start. different wiring though. When the ">" key is pressed, the controller starts the brewing sequence automatically. You want to connect the PIDs mains power terminal to the side of the Gaggia power switch that cuts out power when the machine is off. The Auber kit looks easy since I dont have time to build my own. This is really a DIY project. Top Rated Seller Auber Instruments is one of eBay's most reputable sellers. PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic European Model RI9403 [KIT-GGX-EU] Auber Instruments, Temperature control solutions for home and industry. This works well with a PID for light & medium roasts. To find the neutral inside the GC, you have to test using a multimeter or voltage meter. What exactly is a mains-rated wire, and where would I find one? 0. Did you try with the SSR unit 40 DA or 40AA? For RI9403, please check KIT-GGX-EU. Thank you. The label on REX-C100 says that it is produced by RKC, Japan but you never know for sure :-). Hi Chris, This guide explains this well, and also explains what to do if your home wiring is not correct: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white. Disconnect the two connectors from the brew thermostat, which is located on the bottom left-hand side of the boiler as you face the machine. I wondered if you ended up testing both in the end. I am flattered, but will have to pass. This kit doesn't control the steam temperature nor has the pre-infusion function. But espresso is also among the more complicated ways to make coffee. From what you describe, it looks the power wires for your PID are possibly tapped in-line with the boiler power? Depending on the draw of the display (I saw 50mA somewhere), you could also try running it off a battery. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display. Chris, this is a far simpler way to add preinfusion. The SSR is just a fancy switch and it should only be turning on and off, so depending on how you measure you may not see current. Hi Jimmy. I actually ended up getting the one you recommended. Do you know how to do this? I decided that for me, its not worth worrying about. So there is more or less no concern about PID heat and the PID enclosure. (Available for download after purchasing the kit. After all this, I found that with the PID setpoint set at 94C, the brew temperature would rise to 94.5 and fall to 92.5 minimum. The pump is not wired in series with the Heating element so Im not sure what is causing this. The A vs E should not make a difference as I am not using alarm function, and am using it with a 3-wire PT100. I deliberately avoided looking at the Mr Shades kits and instructions when I wrote this article, I dont want to steer people away from them. There are several PID kits that are available for the Gaggia, the most popular ones are by Mr. Have you got any ideas what might be going on? Shall I change the P,I and D parameters manually and what is your suggestion to start with? it is basically removing the main pump wire and re routing back to the PWM out. I am now waiting for my PID unit and thermocouple with M4 head to arrive this week. When I finished, the whole C100 display just got current only for a sec, then it went out. Leave the Classic powered on for at least 15 minutes. Auber Instruments. Plug in a mains-rated cable connected to a piggyback spade connector, and then plug the original switched mains cable into the piggyback. $326.00. Terrific write-up thank you for posting it! Locked Topic . It has a blue led not red like pictured.The kit works for 115 VAC and 240VAC. I have changed the default value of the SL parameter to work with the RTD sensor (K thermocouple was default). Looking forward getting your thoughts and ideas However I now need to connect steaming and brewing circuits in parallel rather than serial because steaming circuit will not be closed unless I turn on steaming switch and supply power to steaming SSR. (Gaggia Classic) I swear this is the last question I will ask today lol. Have had the parts sitting around for months and no time to install! Do you think that REX-C100FK02-V*EN (designed for K-type thermocouple) is compatible with RTD (PT100) and is not going to create long-term problems with the machine/setup? Hi Jeff. I think this would be the most important parameter of the build, obtaining the correct temp of the water. If you are in the U.S. then mains voltage is 120V, which will not kill you (unless you have a pacemaker or are standing in a bathtub) but can give you a decent shock. Do I need to make any adjustments to your procedure to make the PID handle the steam only (not caring about the group head)? Do you have any diagram of the wiringi cant understand how to switch on the steam circuit so the second SSR would not try to heat the boiler in parallel. Is there a way to tap into +/- 12Volts inside the GCP? My only concern is that Mr Shades has two types of SSR units 40AA and 40DA. But I would definitely read the instructions that come with whatever you receive! Should I get the Auber Instruments PID kit w/ pre-infusion or w/ steam control? The kit looks a lot like the one I ordered. Would you be able to post starting values for the PID kit please? I do not want to risk damaging my machine because of this. 6 Reviews (6) $375.00. My question is where did you place the SSR, is it near the water spout, right side or in the back if you are facing the front of the machine? I am not sure exactly what you did when you moved the wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch. I dont want to void my warranty. Regarding the M4 screw/ thermocouple, is it possible to amend the picture? Brass is soft and easy to drill, and all the adapter needs to do is provide a connection between the thermocouple and the boiler, so there would be no hard in doing this. Theres also a M4 connected thermocouple wire on Amazon that arrived fast although it increased the whole cost compared to Bangood. Manual Machine Shop. I will purchase the PID kit with thermocouple and SSR from aliexpress and buy these rest small items from Mr. Unfortunately, I didnt measure any temperatures for the un-modified machine. Others have managed to also install the PID horizontally and cut out a hole in the side of the GC, but that still requires replacing the water filler funnel. I think this is why using a separate SSR and controller is the only way to go. Its getting very hot indeed so turned it off. Based on several comments, the wiring varies between units, even though they are the same model. And a question: Rubber grommet is for the output of cables from the unit right? Most assembly guides recommend using some thermal paste between the SSR and the Classic to ensure that any heat from the SSR is dumped to the chassis. Auber Forum. The C100 is probably made by dozens of different manufacturers. Main Output: SSR: Open circuit: 4V, Closed Circuit: 24V40mA DC This PID-SSR combination does away with the 12v connection, and uses three wires for the mains power and SSR, with one wire shared between mains and the SSR output. If you also need features such as steam temperature control, pre-infusion, and countdown timer, please checkKIT-GGPpre-infusion kit. Like NEW Gaggia Classic Espresso w/ Grinder and Base - - 6758821731. If anyone is 3d printing the enclosure and doesnt want to tape or otherwise attach it to the Gaggia, I have made these small hooks that can be glued on to the enclosure: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828. That is confusing. This morning I pulled my first shot with the PID. Hello Chris, Hard to say how long it took because I was doing other things as well (dimmer switch, boiler pressure gauge, boiler rebuild, etc.) It should be the power/mains line that comes out of the main power switch, but before the boiler. Hi Jeff. Thanks a lot for the answer. Once you are able use the PID temperature readout to determine exactly what the steam cycle is, you know when to start steaming for more or less endless steam. Please check KIT-GGX-EUinstead. And this is the thermometer out the back. Thanks for your reply: I think you are correct about the Gc being stuck in steam mode, but I never touched the steam switchs wires and reverting the top/bottom swap on the power switch didnt solve the issue. Hi David. If its closed it takes longer for temperatures to drop, but still goes to 102 before the it power cycles. Hi Chris, I appreciate your tutorials on the PID install. The image I used is wrong and confusing, and I have now updated it. Always work with the Classic unplugged. The C-100 can accommodate only one sensor/SSR, so you would only set it for brew temperature. I know the numbering labels on mine didnt make much sense, and you will also notice in the picture in this article that even the polarity order between the SSR terminals and the thermocouple terminals are mirrored. I had to manually enable autotuning on my REX-C100 and i dont know if other values are screwed up or if its something else, since it really does seem like the boiler is getting power in bypass of whatever the PID is doing. The kit is compatible with both 110VAC and 240VAC power. Hi Chris, Ive followed these instructions exactly (thank you for your thoroughness) except for how the mains were tapped: I moved the two wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch to the top, and tapped them (as per another guide). We bring fresh high-quality coffee to the masses. 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