I wouldn't return if you paid me to. We are all ashamed of people like Hector and we wish they would become obsolete. I actually ended up being extremely depressed. Prices in London: "Unless you share your accommodation, you are extremely rich or live in a partnership with someone, you can't essentially live in London". That changed everything. Thanks to the withdrawal agreement my degree is worth less in the EU compare to what it used to be. Pftiuu, you're funny. I am glad you found a country to call home, and hope you'll enjoy there! In the UK there was always immigration but it was controlled and little, only the best and most suitable immigrants can enter. Hi Sandra, I know it's not easy to live in London. It has changed from a land of invention and innovation to that of bloated consumer. We are both honest people, law-abiding citizens who pay taxes as individuals and as a company. I absolutely agree that the only good thing about the UK is Scotland. In the 9 months Ive been back, I have been diagnosed with depression. Until next time, I do hope you find it within yourself to open up and really point out what was ill-informed about the article. indeed. In 2013 linguist David Crystal said on BBC Learning English: People talk about "chav behaviour" or "chav insults" and that sort of thing. I wrote an article about a similar topic a month ago. New Zealand is a close second, but the earthquakes and parochialism relegate it for me Im afraid. With comments like this, you know,I wonder. Its over ambitious maybe. Surprise surprise, a racist in a racist country, what was I expecting?! Our neighbours have been fantastic and really welcoming. Lovely. I believe it is a feature of geography. Stuffed peppers and aubergines with meat and rice. Imagine not having power for your computer. It was kind of sad, even more so when I look back in it. Not just weather, lifestyle or even landscape. I live in Norfolk, so I cannot agree with the rain problem (we occasionally have drought issues here) but otherwise I think you have touched upon all the issue that I cannot come to terms with. You are a disgusting racist and a bigot. As a people, we valued science and education and over time made the education of our children a major priority which further consolidated our industrial power. I'm telling him constantly how much I'd rather live somewhere else in Europe (somewhere cheaper, because yahh, it's way too expensive here) and somewhere where we could simply have a better quality of life. Overcrowded and filling rapidly with alien cultures hostile to their host. Were not all like that though! I hated the weather, the lack of sunshine (sunsets at 3 PM????? A practical question - do you have to have an address in the UK in order to keep your business based there? Or notice that Spain anaisd other places are full of Brit expats.Should people bully them too? The living quality and standards are just so much better in most other countries I have lived in (Ireland included) that I lost my willingness to try and live here. Defined as "a young person characterised by brash and loutish behaviour, usually with connotations of a low social status", 'chavs' have seemingly made their return to popular culture, this time on TikTok. Thats a huge number for a small country. The referendum changed everything for me. I was stunned by Brexit and very sad as well, it foreshadowed the US elections. I find it sad to read through these comments and hear my country described as a hellhole and I and my fellow countrymen as horrible racists. The weather can be a bit much and I heard Belgium doesn't come with much sunshine either. thankyou for making me laugh ; that 5minutes of laughter was more valuable than 1000 holidays in the sun. The quality of public and everyday services (telecoms and banking customer services) is poor and overloaded. Same elsewhere. Very nice post! Because I am white I could pass for being British or European but I am not. UK for years has failed to create policies to protect its border, its benefits and health system to be abused by anyone and everyone. What might come as a shock is that I even loved the weather! I believe not only the UK, but the European continent is suffering from a shortage of work and opportunities and this is increasing people's negative attitudes towards immigrants, which are arriving seeking opportunities that simply aren't there. Lol. You can't have a first worldly state and have open borders. Dear Sarah, New Zealand truly is a wonderful place. My name is Josefa Ubilla, i`m fourteen years old, and i live in Chile. However, it is shocking to still hear people moaning about immigrants coming to Britain for the sake of benefits, whereby it is the vast majority of immigrants who pay the most taxes. [8], The word in its current pejorative usage is recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary as first used in a Usenet forum in 1998 and first used in a newspaper in 2002. But I wanted to show this country that I respect its traditions, its cultures and its laws. I cant afford anything! My hubby and I left the UK in 2013 for the same reasons. The trans-community, is (Like for a better word) under attack from the press, people, and the government. I say keep traveling and find places that you can afford to have a decent life and by that I don't mean buying 'stuff' settle for much less but a good lifestyle. A socialist government will. Ps, I have been to over 85 countries, so I have some context. Typical patronising, sneering, condescending arrogant attitude of a leftie remainer voter. I am glad you had the courage to leave it all behind and become the fulfilled and happy person you are today. I always strive to do better. But spending all your life covering up your origins because of racism at school means you are living a lie. It would be good if we could connect and talk. Wow Cory! Because I promise you are! I am Indian (ethnically) but not from the subcontinent (haha British Colonialism made immigration in my DNA!). After having lived in Canada (citizen), USA (Green Card) worked across the world including Australia, Middle East, most countries in the EU visited many other countries, it is my opinion that the UK is crap. But that does not justify mass immigration, and I say mass immigration because I am in favour of short immigration of few people and more controlled. It wasn't all bells and whistles because it took me jumping through a lot of hoops to be able to obtain what back then was called a Yellow Card. Because they expect Engineering to be taken care of bu foreign workforce! What a load of rubbish. And, the Americans assisted in WWII yes, however even you can't say if that was the ultimate reason why we ended up victorious in that war. Sorry I'm late to the party, but I'll post anyway. The cool Britannia era and the political discourse around equal opportunities, positive discrimination and multiculturalism gradually over a long period of time became completely replaced with an anti immigration narrative which reached a crescendo with Brexit and ripped a massive great hole through the country and I honestly don't believe we can ever be the same again. And finally, let me make something perfectly clear. "Chav hang outs include an old fisherman's shed in the harbour and a derelict caravan in a field near the eastern end of the village. Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! Im working class under a Tory government. I was taught in school that Britain was a multicultural society and we we're taught that multiculturalism was a positive thing. We love you! There are lots of things that could be better in the UK, like the NHS funding, but overall it's a fantastic country to live in and even though I'm a foreigner, I felt obliged to step in and add my 2 cents :). But now that has been reversed through the mainstream political narrative embracing populist views. That sums it up. We have been in the UK for almost 3 years now and even bought a house, but we never truly felt welcome. Violent, dirty cities. No life. If you question that, you will be 'animalist.'. At least in comparison to other European countries. Then with what happened in UK last summer, it saddens me that those who come and fight the hardest to work and stay in the country are the ones to leave. We saved Europe from Nazis and agreed to defend Europe unconditionally after Brexit. Obviously! There are idiots on both sides, but probably many more thoughtful and intelligent people on both sides as well. Anyway long story short because I could reference many examples of me seeing racism and ignorance, openly and behind closed doors from other people and my self included too and learning from my own mistakes and developing as a person because we don't always have positive influences in our lives and at times I have held points of view that I would be ashamed to think about now. Have you considered leaving Europe and heading to places like Australia and New Zealand? You know why? I wish you good luck. They are more racist Im afraid, albeit in a passive way. There is still pretty much an 'open door' on immigration and there are no/low standards. Hi! Foreigners cant even buy a house in New Zealand anymore. There are cheap things too but expect to get what you pay for. Those who are racist can be found anywhere, even in your own country. Get your free Top 10 Luxury Hotels in the World ebook. So to sum up I'm 100% with you and wish you the very best of luck in your move. Trust me, live as a black person in Italy or Greece, or a Muslim in Colombia or Argentina for a while and you will really understand racism. Generations to come will read history books and laugh at how what was once "the Greatest Empire" has become a rainy, lonely island, with no power and no influence. I am an Indian national who came here 3 years ago (came on Tier-1 visa) and supported a media company with investments and expanded to clients across in USA & EU. I understand totally. Being English is a privilege, the UK is a good country and one of the best in the world. I'm not surprised at all that you're leaving the UK! What you are supporting is an idea that the UK needs to stand alone economically, which is a cute idea yet impossible (because not even you support yourself and need help earning money) -- and you also support vile, and viscous ideas of THE OTHER, of xenophobia, and of racism, and hatred, and UKIP, all of which started talks of Brexit. [1] ". Also the people respect all the transit rules, in England the streets are very neater, on the contrary in Chile they`re full of traffic and disorder. I mean let's spend millions on exiting. Too many people taking out, not enough putting in enough. Hi Miranda, thank you for your comment. Having lived and worked in many places, from the US to India, the liberal (not liberalism that is being forced upon us now) mindset of this land has always accepted that "different" person to practice their life with respect. Thanks for sharing. Then millions on renegotiating deals with countries who don't need the UK. Try to set up the equivalent of a Ltd. company in Spain, Portugal, Italy, France and you are getting into a storm of bureucracy and taxes. If you think the only "British" dishes are the Sunday roast, fish and chips, pies and bleedin toad in the hole then you're a bit of a divvy. Now it's obsessed with 'poverty' (can't afford food but can fags and false nails) and banal debates about identity. Visiting countries to escape reality and feel comfortable in my own skin but is always a slap in the face to reality going through immigration. It's the only country in Europe, except maybe Ireland, which has a great entrepreneurial spirit instead of paper-pushing bureaucrats sucking the lifeblood out of the economy. No, they make a very fair point. Both Toronto and Vancouver are my favorite Canadian cities, and the road trip from Alberta to BC is very beautiful. Thanks again! I could see where things were headed and at the time I was a social worker. The realisation that my expectations of London were all wrong led me into severe depression. I found it very difficult to make friends in London. I'm of Indian origin butI was born in the UK and I am thinking of moving to India. This means that you pay for parking everywhere, house prices goes up and MORE IMPORTANTLY, access to nature is RESTRICTED. This isn't really a new thing. I found it. I had the idea that the UK would be a paradise for me, and I would be able to continue my professional career over there, in London, to be specific. I love how you touched on just how expensive it is to travel in the UK too, especially by train (not that they ever run on schedule anyways!). I'm moving away from my home in the US next year and have some similar reasons why. I learnt the language and am well integrated (except for German TV, which is truly awful so I have Freesat!) [15], In a case where a teenage woman was barred from her own home under the terms of an anti-social behaviour order in 2005, some British national newspapers branded her "the real-life Vicky Pollard" with the Daily Star running headlines reading, "Good riddance to chav scum: real life Vicky Pollard evicted",[16] both referring to a BBC comedy character (see In the media below). The food quality both in restaurants and in supermarkets is awful, but a Brit friend explained me that's because most people eat to survive not to actually enjoy the meal. Hahaha I know this is an older comment but I just wanted to address the food thing for the benefit of more recent readers. He also forgets the violence in India against minorities, abuse of women and so forth. But no one wants to live in Scotland! This means that if you have a car, you can get pretty much anywhere around the UK. How people can be close-minded in their views of the world. Or is that British humour too? But the vast majority of people in the UK seem to be relatively well off. I think it's hypocritical. Maybe I'm a little weird but it just works for me. What !!!!??? Because you don't seem to have widen your horizons much We truly hope you stay in the UK because Europe is so much better off without people like you. Germany thought about it. So anyone who voted leave has to live with the consequences of their actions and they have to ask them selves some pretty serious questions about the nature of their views and what they are rooted in. Unfortunately despite all the UKs flaws he's reluctant to leave the UK and I myself am finding it hard to pin point the perfect location to move to. Good luck with your move. The word chav is a relatively new one in British English, used to describe a supposed social group defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "a young person of a type characterised by brash and loutish behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes usually with connotations of a low social status". 30 for petrol is not accounting for car insurance, depreciation on the car, your time spent driving rather than working/reading/sleeping on the train etc. It sucks that you can't wear a dress unless you go on holiday. I can probably tell you something fantastic about a lot of them. Please do not come back. However, you do need an address in the UK for your business. Also, if Brexit is such a good idea, why not let Northern Ireland secede and let Scotland have its independence? People like you make me all the more happier that Leave and Trump won, and you know, those liberal leftie tears are so very sweet! We have pies (a variety of them), we have the mighty Sunday dinner, the toad in the hole, the stew, sausages and mash, fish and chips. And we've come to the conclusion, that there's no place like home.. I prefer many countries abroad - and hope to relocate - good luck with your travels . But thinking back to recent trips abroad I've just brushed it off as "holiday syndrome" when I've thought about how much happier other places seemed to be! Britain was built on pure evil and racism. You may be from Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland which would make your question laughable. Please bear in mind that these prices are without internet, food, transportation, clothes, personal care or any sort of entertainment. History has shown us this. You are laughable, John! I moved back from the UK to India (which is where I am from) 6 years ago after living there for over 10 years. It has good food, great climate, culture, sea,.. and it's nog too far from "Home". And your seasons kick ass :) You can ski, swim, tan, walk. I might be back to UK to visit Stratford but not sure when, and I hope the situation will get much better during my return trip. Cant wait, although I do appreciate that this country and working here has allowed me to be able to afford this move I dont want to continue into old age here! Sadly, I am one of them. But I can assure you, we love our life in the North and we are seriously considering going further up, to Scotland. People are kind and welcoming. People are lovely, but the drinking culture is a bit over the top for me. One other thing I learnt is where can you go in the world where you will not be the victim of racism because of your name or your origins? The cost of HS2 is mainly in legal fees ! Once the violence started to happen I could see the shame in their faces though. Of course it's not right to blame violent, chavs in Birmingham who are 13 and 14 but bully their whole cities, and people who're ready to live off dole, or Saudi's (who, in fact, funded the SHARD in London) or Russian mobsters who get in the UK because of weapons trade and have a lot of money which the UK needs. I hope you find a new place you will call home. Like everywhere else, it already has pressures from an ageing longer living population. I'm really sorry as a Brit that you had negative experiences of racism, especially as someone who clearly learnt the language and integrated into the country. But usually I live in Scotland with my British partner and we've discussed leaving the UK in a few years for all the reasons you mentioned. It was a dream but reality is so different. How is that even logically possible when the UK simply doesn't GROW resources needed for their population to sustain itself? The Fabian Society considers the term to be offensive and regards it as "sneering and patronising" to a largely voiceless group. My article is too polite if you ask me. Hi Katie, thank you for your comment. In an ideal world none of these things should matter. Immigrants are the people who are willing to give up their rights, liberties and cultures, in order to work for the sake of your government, your country, your society and your benefits. It's not true about the weather at all! Gloucester has been featured on a popular website dedicated to 'chav towns'. A passport country that doesn't accept me the way I am due to my ethnic heritage, global upbringing, and different cultural views. I think people like this author who want to attack the UK and the British people should LEAVE PERMANENTLY as their self centred bigotry will never change. I also hope you don't feel any issues as a result of Brexit. Did I? I want Britain to get better, because it is my home and I am and love being British. The personal story behind our decision to leave the UK (and come back after 4 years abroad). To further reassure myself that my English level was adequate enough for me to get a job, I went to University and took a language exam. They live off of their UK pension. I lived alone in a small flat in Birmingham, my wages covered my rent and bills and nothing else. No visa to Australia without the qualifications, sponsorship, medical insurance etc. my heart is there , my heart is here .. In all my years in the UK I never paid for a taxi in London because I could not afford it yet in Cairo I can go for a half an hour taxi ride and pay under 3. Maybe we didn't find our space in the South. Sorry for the belated reply. Of course, many people want to be English, that's why they come here. Tolerant please don't make me laugh. Bigot "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions". So, I can fully understand your decision to move away. As a Brit who has lived abroad for 10 years (in Germany), I always said that I could not really see myself going back to live there permanently for similar reasons. I apologised and ran out crying, feeling desperate and marginalised. Perhaps you can tie a flag to it and wave it around for the amusement of your 'patriotic' peers. According to Expatistan here are some things you have to take into account: Monthly rent for 85 m2 (900 Sqft) furnished accommodation in EXPENSIVE area 2,391 Warrens Village: Miserable, noisy, depressing, tacky, chav-tastic - See 308 traveler reviews, 221 candid photos, and great deals for Warrens Village at Tripadvisor. I checked some pictures and it looks sooo beautiful! As you might have gathered thus far, the prices in the UK are rather high. I have a Polish wife, and we've been increasingly travelling full-time. Because why would they?! I was not sure what happened with people there, as if everyone is busy and mind about their own business. We were the first country to be industrialised, like most of the world now, and our parliamentary system is followed the free world over. I do hope you get to leave and start living the dream in a cheaper country in Europe. Sometimes foreigners dont understand this and confuse our ambition and drive with anger. The mess that UK is today is due to the failed policies of successive governments. All the nurse and doctors to be imported. Anyway, I hope you come back. Im born and bread British and I hate it! -Tv - Crap and, you need A PAID LICENSE to tolerate that crap. His family is super conservative (they voted leave) and it's quite surprising to see how people are close-minded and so patriotic. I am bisexual and growing up in Romania vs UK are two different worlds - yes, Romanians were way more tolerant than British kids who physically abused and bullied me. This is a great comment which brings a lot more perspective. Maybe not your cup of tea. It was also the uneducated, the "lower class" if you will (I can say that because on paper that's me haha). I cannot find decent veggies and fruit that do not cost a fortune most times. I mean I left Romania because I didn't like it and wanted a better life for myself. There's only one thing Brits love more than telling people how great their home towns are, and that's complaining about their home towns. I was bummed I didn't get to see as much of the UK as I had hoped! The cold, the racism, the bigotry, the expense, the American attitudes of greed and money over morality, the awful changes to education, the privatisation of everything. We have something called tigaie picanta or spicy stir-fry and piperchi which is a spicy red pepper stew. I don't blame them. I wish you all the best, MJ. Dear Cory, I think this is the most precious article on living in a country on the entire Internet. 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